ecademy makes tens of thousands of email conversations available online

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ecademy makes publicly accessible, tens of thousand of records detailing email conversations with its customers.

Here’s a reference to one such in which one member refers to another (an elite BlackStar no less) as “a little rat”

http://www.ecademy.com/node.php?id=118231

re above blog:
Can I ask why it is permissible for this idiot to badmouth me in public on this forum…
I am shocked this evening to see that this ‘chap’ posted my (unrequested) testimonials as a joke and of ‘whats wrong with this network club!

I have just signed up/paid as an powernetworker within the last few days – unless I get a response I would like to cease my member ship & receive by return the amount I paid to join returrned to my credit card…

I find it disgraceful that this character asassination can take place… & if this Ecademy I want no part of it

SEE BELOW:
My new favourite sport on ecademy . . . deleting testimonials .
by Andreas WiedowBlackStar on 8-Dec-08 6:32pm
view this person’s profile@ Don’t look for it, I’ve deleted it.
Hmh . . . seems still there smile . . . Alan . . .

And here’s to everybody’s amusement . . . a fine selection of the most ridiculous testimonials wink

Tune in . . . Father & Son by Cat Stevens

Have fun, Andreas Wiedow – aka Durian

I await to hear your respnse or the return of my

If you edit the last few digits in the range 1 – 22400, you can explore thousands of publically available emails.

I’ve been contacted before, by an anonymous writer with an email thread between the entire ecademy management team discussing their salaries and pyramid-like business model. I could have easily published it and embarrased them to the point that they’d have to make a public apology, or close down due to the insight I would have provided. However, I thought better of it in the end and decided not to say a word. However, customers’ emails made available online is a different matter…

Are you an ecademy member? I joined a few years ago but never used it – I still get connection requests from weirdo life coaches.

[Update: 16:00 ecademy CTO has informed me that the problem was related to support related queries and has now been resolved. For those of you requesting more information about the emails to which I refer above; I never intended to disclose them]


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    4Avatars v0.3.1 v0.3.1  Pascal said...

    Very surprising, especially for a long established ‘professional’ network. Have they completely turned their backs on the intranet, or was it a typo in the original spec docs? I’ve only ever been contacted by life coaches or the undefineable! Good exposure Paul. Would love to read the internal comms relating to pyramid plans.


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    4Avatars v0.3.1 v0.3.1  Nikki Pilkington said...

    Shocking? Maybe. Surprising? Not at all.

    I’m one of the few people that manages to gain clients and exposure from Ecademy, but have no doubts that nothing regarding the unprofessionalism of the management team surprises me.

    Let’s not forget that the owner of Ecademy retweets his private D Twitter messages automatically….

    I’ll be interested to see the public response to this.


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    4Avatars v0.3.1 v0.3.1  Nikki Pilkington said...

    I see the access has been removed now:

    http://www.ecademy.com/module.php?mod=support&sid=1


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    4Avatars v0.3.1 v0.3.1  Nikki Pilkington said...

    It looks as if it’s been switched off now. http://www.ecademy.com/module.php?mod=support&sid=1


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    4Avatars v0.3.1 v0.3.1  Sarah Arrow said...

    I have been reading about this in a variety of places and I was shocked that it happened. I have been a member of Ecademy for 14 months, and yes it has it’s flaws but it’s not the only social network for professionals and SME business owners. It saddens me that it takes a post like this to correct an error, but no apology is forthcoming to the members. Like most things in life, you get what you pay for.


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    4Avatars v0.3.1 v0.3.1  Farhan Rehman said...

    That is scary to even think about.. I wonder how many other social networks have such vulnerabilities..

    I wonder how publicly Ecademy’s going to own up to this, and how pro-actively they’re going to manage their response to the community?? Will be logging onto it tonight, to take a look, and possibly start planning my exit from that platform, now that I’ve heard this..

    Can’t say I’m surprise though, it always did seem a little more complicated than it needed to be.. And if it’s ever too complicated, chances are you’ll probably miss some flaw, some hole somewhere – but something that public? That’s just wrong!


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    Paul Walsh  Paul Walsh said...

    I’m sure some people benefit from ecademy, but I’ll be surprised if the numbers are in double figures 😉

    I personally think gone are the days that social networks (technical or people based) can continue to make money out of purely connecting people. At least not tech-savvy people anyway. Life coaches will always look for weird ways to connect to people…

    I don’t know any senior industry people who have any respect for this network. That’s not a personal attack on any member of the team by the way. I don’t know them.


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    4Avatars v0.3.1 v0.3.1  Ecademy allows public access to emails and sends out spam. Will it ever learn? said...

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    4Avatars v0.3.1 v0.3.1  Evert Bopp said...

    Paul, you’ve done it now.
    Mr. Power is surely getting his Paul Walsh voodo doll out…


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    4Avatars v0.3.1 v0.3.1  Andreas Wiedow said...

    Makes me surely a winner being picked out of tens of thousands of email conversations.

    Re. the backdoor . . . I’ve always said that no thing ever on the internet is private. Thanks for highlighting this and giving ecademy the opportunity to fix that bug, Paul 🙂

    And adding to my marketing 🙂


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    4Avatars v0.3.1 v0.3.1  Crisis for Business Social Network as “Ecademy” Reveals Private Messages said...

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    4Avatars v0.3.1 v0.3.1  Eoin O'Leary said...

    I agree with Nikki Pilkington (above) Shocking, but not Surprising.

    Ecademy was/is doing well technical, as the SEO value can be good, but over the last six months or so, the value within Ecademy has declined.

    The attitude of the Ecademy “team” to complaints has been eye opening at times, whitewashing, when the cracks should have been mended first.

    I have yet to see a reason to become a paid member … unless I wanted to make a few ££ on commissions for bringing in more paid members (sound familiar?)

    I also agree with your comment Paul, “gone are the days that social networks (technical or people based) can continue to make money out of purely connecting people.” …. they have to add value.

    http://www.Cagora.com is doing something more interesting from a social network point of view and it shows promise, but we’ll have to wait until it starts attracting more members.

    I think that change is coming very soon … bumpzee.com has taken a sabbatical … pownce.com closed just two days ago and I think that we will see many more social networks close in 2009.

    On a daily basis, I get far more from the 140 characters in Twitter than any other social network I log in to.

    I’d pay for an “advertising free” Twitter account.


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    4Avatars v0.3.1 v0.3.1  Michelle said...

    Paul, I couldn’t agree more with you about Ecademy – why on earth do I want to be contacted by mind-guru’s in Switzerland to join their network. If I were the co-founders, I would be looking to get out of this business a.s.a.p. as I just can’t see what it’s USP is. The only good thing about it is the quality networking sites that have sprung up around it who have used Ecademy as a template on what not to do when creating a social networking site !!


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    4Avatars v0.3.1 v0.3.1  Lawrence Perry said...

    Getting lost in social networks like Ecademy….would i suggest waste a lot of your time…

    Amazingly I have so many people writing to me, who are fed up with Ecademy spam….

    Why – Ecademy is all about advertising and I guess MLM…

    I can think of a lot better ways to use your time, can’t you?


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    4Avatars v0.3.1 v0.3.1  Tai said...

    Err…. these emails are still visible


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    4Avatars v0.3.1 v0.3.1  ammar said...

    http://www.ecademy.com/node.php?id=21563

    still visible wat do u say sire..


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    4Avatars v0.3.1 v0.3.1  John P said...

    Ecademy is one big MLM/Pyramid scheme – they encourage small business people to think they will make a fortune selling on Ecademy if they spend ages on the network, blogging like crazy (so Ecademy gets the SEO effect) and recruiting new paid members (where they get a few pennies).

    99% of members leave after a short period fed up with constant spam, cheezy communications, pressure selling of the latest NLP Guru, and the, shall we say, frank discussions with existing members.

    Ecademy’s have been desperately trying to flog the network to anyone who will listen for the last four years as they know it will collapse like a Bernard Madoff scheme. There have been no takers – funny that 🙂


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    4Avatars v0.3.1 v0.3.1  Thomas Power said...

    There are many inaccuracies in these comments. Two years on Ecademy remains strong.


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    4Avatars v0.3.1 v0.3.1  Robert D said...

    Ha ha ha. Thomas Power, the David Brent of the online social networking movement.


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